A Lesbian is defined as a woman whose sexual orientation is to women. Meaning they solely find women attractive whom they date and have sex with. With that said, this is what baffles me about Lesbianism:
First, Why do some dress like men?
Second, what is the purpose of the strap on dick?
It was in my belief that women were lesbians because the thought of any sexual relations with a man with a man gave them the gag reflex. So why do I see a feminine woman holding hands with a woman with a buzz cut and sagging jeans? Why dress like a man when you say you don’t want to be with one?And if I am not mistaken men have penises, so why are you stimulating a male female sexual experience when you don’t want to be with a man? Is it that subconsciously lesbians that find themselves attracted to dude look-a-likes want to be with a man and the ones who mock men really just want to be one?
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I totally agree with this, I feel the exact same way. Those are the lesbians I call "FAKE LESBIANS", the ones that claim to be Lesbian yet seek out women who dress like men, and I know some personally they even try to talk to their women like men. On top of that they go out and buy a PENIS the defining factor that makes a male a male. That's like buying a dog, throwing a sheep skin rug on him, feeding him grass and trying to teach him to go Baaaa. Just buy a damn sheep if that's what you really desire!
A "REAL LESBIAN" is a woman who is either not attracted to men, doesn't like D!CK or both. I would consider Ellen Degeneres real. She said she tried D!CK and didn't like it and that she was never attracted to men, so she qualifies.
I KIND OF FEEL THE SAME WAY. WHY BUY A PENIS AND THEM PROCLAIM TO HATE MEN. IT SEEMS RIDICULOUS TO ME MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN SHED SOME LIGHT.........
SPECIAL THANKS TO NUDULZ FOR THE TOPIC!
My great aunt has been with her partner for well over 50 years now and she is "manly"! I never understood it myself however she always talks about how my great grandma used to dress her up in dresses all the time and she HATED IT so much...she said she burned all her dresses when she moved out of her mom's house! LOL!
Okay, let's break this down. Popular opinion amongst experts in sexuality is that the answers lie in pre-natal development.
There's more to sexuality than sex and orientation. There is gender identity. During gestation, we get a hormone surge that determines our gender identity. Males and females get the hormone surge. You can be genetically and reproductively one sex, while having a brain that leans more toward the opposite gender and mannerisms. If you get the surge too early or too late, it can effect how masculine or feminine you are.
At conception, we all start out as female. As males grow in the womb, they get a surge of testosterone. Too little of the hormone can bring about less male oriented behavior. At the same time, if a female receives that surge, it can lead her to act more masculine. That's why if a child has a male gender identity at birth, yet is born with no penis, they will still revert (in most cases) to male behavior at a later point in their childhood, despite gender re-assignment (castration and the application of female hormones for treatment) at birth. It all depends on how we form during pregnancy.
Guys also give women oral sex because it feels good, and many straight women enjoy using a dildo for the same reason. Straight men have also been known to enjoy anal sex because of the prostate. A lesbian can enjoy penetration without a penis. Our g-spots are on the inside, so penetration is the only way to reach it. It's not odd if you sit and reflect on it. There's only so much oral sex you can perform before your jaw gives out. Most people want to please their partner's in a variety of ways. A strap-on is just one of those ways.
alot of women who are gay/lesbians became that way either by choice or because of sexual abuse in their past...i think that they want to have that power or control while being with a woman. sexual abuse is a difficult situation to deal with and whatever happened to make them NOT want men anymore is being reflected through them. they dress like men because they want to be the one in control. they act like men and want to treat the woman the way they think their abuser was treating them/ looking at them whatever. sexual abuse has ALOT to do with most of these women turning gay. most of them lost their virginity or were molested and thats what made them be that way. NOT ALL but at least 75% in my opinion
Kia-boo, I'd like to hear exactly how you reached that conclusion.
Hmmm, can't stand men.....but walk around with strap-ons??? They're a bunch of headcases.
You have to be the 'weakest' chick ALIVE to get turned out by one of these freaks.
This shit is definitely ABNORMAL.
A DON'T KNOW ABOUT STRAIGHT MEN ENJOYING ANAL SEX VENUS...........WHO KNOWS THESE DAYS..........
IN ANY EVENT I THINK SEXUAL ABUSE CAN PLAY A ROLE IN A WOMAN BEING GAY. I THINK IT'S MORE THAN BIOLOGICAL I ALSO THINK IT IS ENVIRONMENTAL.
I THINK IT IS COMPLEX TO NOT WANT A MAN YET WANT TO BE OR PORTRAY ONE.
well ay mans view this is kinda like asking why a man dresses like a girl???if your going to dress like the opeset sex then tour are not gay or lessie your transgender i have asked why they have told me (friends that cross dress) that ther in born into the wrong body so if thats is so i can understand as a gay man i will not date a cross dresser that would to me be like dateing a girl???if i were lessi i would surely not date a dyke its ok to call them that in my world they call themselfs dykes to lol my chick would be a lipstick lessi thats what we call a lessi who is verry girly so its just what you want in life the lessi want the fanticy of being men and the men want to be girls as for a true gay or lessi we just wanna be with the same sex not someone fake sorry about the spelling haveing a bas nite
Play a role? Yes.
Be 75% of why lesbians are lesbian? No.
And that's what people don't understand, Bertha. Wanting to be a man or portray a man isn't accurate. A woman who is masculine THINKS like a man, because that is how she developed in the womb and matured, which is beyond her control. She's not imitating, and she's not parodying maleness.
Now, some women can take it to extremes, generally because they have met such hostility that they feel the need to be extra aggressive, but that's no different than a lot of men, either.
I agree with you about the butch, I have a friend like that and even though she claims to be a lesbian she has been with men and I thought that that was Ac/Dc. My question would be is what about the ones that have the sex change? What are they about when some are married and stay with the wife, that's totally bizarre.
VENUS: YOU KNOW VENUS MAYBE WHEN A WOMAN DECIDES SHE LIKE WOMEN OR SOME MAYBE THAT'S THE ROLE SHE FEELS SHE HAS TO FIT INTO. I HAD A BEST FRIEND WHO WAS FEMININE THEN WHEN SHE TURNED 19 TURNED INTO A WEED SMOKING SAGGING PANTS BUTCH. AT WHAT POINT WOULD THIS GAY GENE SET IN?
SUSIE: NOW THAT I THINK OF IT. ISN'T THIS THE SAME AS BEING A TRANSVESTITE?
the majority of my friends are gay and lesbian and i promise you that there is no underlying desire to "become a man". i dress in a way that's comfortable to me but i'm always conscious of how i'm perceived by men. i might prefer to go around with short hair (it's easier), sweat pants, and no make up but i'm bound by the knowledge that i'm not going to be desirable to most men if i dress that way. lesbians don't have that restriction so why should they dress like they do? among my friends i've never noticed a difference in character or emotions between "butch" and "femme" lesbians. i think the clothing helps people who need to classify people via stereotypes classify them, that's all. it's just stereotypical bullshit, a woman in jeans and a t shirt working on a car is "trying to be a man" but the same woman in a skirt and heels working on a car is "sexy". wtf? as far as strap ons and dildos go, why not? what else is going to reach a g spot? are men who go down on women trying to be lesbians?
Ahhh...the origin surfaces.
You're judging an entire group by someONE you once knew, and assuming since you knew her to be one way growing up, she was not another within. It sounds like you're dealing with some latent bitterness towards her. You thinking she decided to suddenly be gay is just further evidence of that. It felt like a betrayal, didn't it? A secret she kept? So, it's easier to believe she suddenly 'decided' to be gay than to acknowledge she could've been butch the entire time, and simply have hidden it from you and the rest of the world.
Gay gene? When did I mention GENES? I said you can be genetically one sex and have the mentality of another based on hormone surges. I said nothing about a gay gene.
LOL. LOL. LOL. NO. I HAVE NO GRUDGE AGAINST HER WE ARE STILL FRIENDS. HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND DRESSING COMFORTABLE BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT. THE MANNERISMS ARE ALSO MASCULINE. I MEAN I HAVE SEEN BUTCHES WITH A FULL MOUTH OF GOLD TEETH GRABBING THEIR CROTCH TALKING LIKE MEN. IT'S NOT JUST THE DRESS COME ON IT'S THE MANNERISMS.
HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THOUGHT. TO BUTCHES RECIVE ORAL SEX? OR DO THEY JUST USE THE STRAP ON? I WAS ONCE TOLD BY I BUTCH THAT THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. IF THAT IS THE CASE WHAT REAL GRATIFICATION IS THE BUTCH GETTING?
you're talking about lesbians as though they're space aliens or something. they have sex in a variety of ways and positions the same as any other couple. there's no formula, just like with straight sex. when you do something for your man and you're not directly stimulated and gratified by it then why do YOU do it? what's the point? the point is that there is pleasure in giving pleasure. i don't really get why you seem determined to assign everyone "roles" in order for you to understand what other people are all about. people are different, all types of people. not all lesbians are butch or femme, like straight women they fall everywhere in the middle. not all butch women want to be men, some might, and so what? who cares? what's there to get? people are different. end of story. you could meet 500 lesbians and hear their life stories and still not "get it" because you're trying to define a group based on individuals. as far as understanding what drives other people to be the way they are; there is no common denominator. it doesn't exist. anything that looks like a common denominator exists only in the eye of one who's desperately searching for it. it's a waste of time.
IM NOT TRYING TO PUT NOBODY IN A CATEGORY. I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD YOU WANT A PENIS STUCK IN YOU WHEN YOU DONT WANT A MAN. OK OK THE GSPOT. I ALSO DID NOT UNDERSTAND ROLES. I DID NOT KNOW THAT THE BUTCH ALSO GETS ORAL SEX. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THEY DONT.
TRUST ME I JUST WAS CONFUSED. I AM STARTING TO UNDERSTAND........... WHY A LESBIAN DOESN'T WANT A MAN BUT WANTS A WOMAN WHO ACTS LIKE A MAN.
I UNDERSTAND THE LESBIANS WHO ARE LIKE REGULAR WOMEN. THEY JUST ARE LESBIANS I KNOW A FEW. IS THERE MORE TO THIS?
ELLEN DOESN'T ACT LIKE A MAN.
there's not really any more to it except that gays have existed in every conceivable social, racial, religious, and economic combination since the dawn of history. trying to figure out why they exist or what they feel as a group is like trying to figure out if all left handed people also like the color green. what does it matter? and for the record, lesbians don't hate men lol. not wanting to have sex with someone doesn't mean the same thing as hating them. i don't want to have sex with you but i don't hate you.
I love Lesbians. I don't think they are striving to be a man. Would you want to be such a dastardly, unthoughtful, unfaithful being such as many men I know. Rachel Madow, a Rhodes scholar, is the smartest woman I know. Guess what, she's not in some fucked up closet. She is openly gay and works for the best news organization on the planet.
HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH ME OR NOT? LOL.
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT LESBIANS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE ADAM AND EVE. I HAVE JUST ALWAYS MISUNDERSTOOD THE OVERLY MASCULINE ONES. TRUST ME I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE. I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT I JUST LOOK AT IT AS IF I WERE A LESBIAN WHAT I WOULD WANT.
I have wondered this SAME thing !!!! Personally, I'm sure sex with a woman can be very erotic, sexy and orgasmic, but sooner or later I gonna need some penetration !!! So, my fantasy may be to have sex with a women, just once...I'm sticking with the dicks. LOL
It is a mental fantasy. They be with a woman but mentally they are dreaming it is a man. Since the woman appears to dress like a man he portrays the role of a man and since she knows better what a woman would like to be treated, she treats her that way.
I think the same thing applies to guys. Seriously, why would any fag want to shag up with Chris Crocker when they can find a better looking blonde woman that doesn't talk as much shit as he does.
MAYBE WOMEN JUST PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT MEN CANT......... I MEAN OTHER THAN SEX.
I not being a lesbian would think that a true lesbian would be attracted to women who look and act like women,as for the apparatus I am lost as to why. Wouldn't a cucumber work?
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE A PENIS?
Foxxy hit the nail on the head. You seem to think of butch women as sideshows or freaks or just abnormal.
You know, I explained about mannerisms in my first post. It's part of gender identity.
"I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD YOU WANT A PENIS STUCK IN YOU WHEN YOU DONT WANT A MAN."
I know plenty of straight women like that.
Straight people did not patent all sex positions and toys solely for their own teams' usage.
You keep saying a woman who acts like a man. They aren't trying to 'act like a man'. They are simply masculine. Women who do want to be a man can opt for surgery.
There are plenty of butch or masculine women. Some are gay. Some are straight. Remember tomboys?
It's their gender identity, as I explained in the first post you seem to have neglected. It was about mannerisms, which is what you seem to be hung up on.
You didn‘t want a real answer, though. You wanted people to agree with you for asking, and then help you make fun of lesbians. Explaining it takes away a lot of your entertainment, so you opt for being obtuse so you don‘t have to give up your already-formed opinion on butch lesbians. As long as you don't acknowledge the actual why, you can make a lot of asinine conjecture about it. This blog is to a T the embodiment of why butches are misunderstood.
This blog isn’t worth the 430 pages of bulletins currently sitting in my myspace bulletins after the friend request. Adios.
Yeah I don't get it either. It seemingly defeats the purpose of being with a woman if she looks, acts and attempts to be manly.
Probably an endless scale of diversity, like anything else. Physically I can see attractiveness in both men and women, but emotionally lesbianism would scare me. I can't see risking hurting someone's feelings if it turned out a FAIL, and the drive I have for men is plenty. But it doesn't turn me off or anything, it's kind of interesting. I was approached fairly recently & was really flattered but no, I'm straight. I supposed if I'd really wanted to, I would have. She was more of the lipstick kinda girl, really gorgeous, if SHE didn't do it for me, I guess I'm stuck with guys LOL. To get back to addressing your point, Maybe a feminine lesbian attracted to a "butch" type liked the more masculine way of thinking but in a female, like feeling taken care of? That was the impression I got from a couple I know. Anyway to me being gay or straight is just a natural variation of sexuality and other people's love lives are nothing for people to get their panties in a twist over. Now I get enough of getting MY panties in a twist over my OWN relationships...What scares me? (1)I already feel sorry for men sometimes for what we put them through, no way am I gonna suffer like THAT. (2) Who could I bitch and vent to? men don't listen to that. There's no gender left to bitch to!! LOL (3) Too confusing. Not fair if since she is gay & I'm not really. Now when I was younger I was a bit of a wild child, but now, not so much. (4) Most of all I love the honey I got. He heard the whole proposition and I was even MORE flattered that he doesn't want to share. awwwww (my eX would have been trying to blackmail me into sharing o.0)
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